Others prefer Ms. Though I have an opinion of use of those honorifics in the work place -- It's not really my right to ignore another person's preference as to how he or she is addressed. So if a retired Chief wants to be addressed as Chief Dear C. See the image of his website below. DoD guidelines are designed to prohibit anyone receiving The DoD regs limit any courtesies to those who serve with the power of the government behind their actions.
Protocol officers at the Pentagon interpret the reg's suggested use of one's rank in commercial enterprises to refer to charitable activities on the board of a local hospital and community events selling Christmas trees for a service organization.
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It would not include any endeavor which can be construed to be employment. They are clear that a retired officer or vet in the context of a post-service position is addressed as Mr. This is not to in any way devalue one's service. We do absolutely honor it. In a biography, or on a resume, mention of one's service along with one's complete history is pertinent.
But other than that, the continued use of one's rank as a retiree should be limited to personal and social use, or in official situations directly related to their service. Whether there is a DoD protocol police out there enforcing it, is another issue. Perhaps the opinion of his fellow retirees will be persuasive? See my posting on use of rank which notes the pertinent regs.
We have a client that is currently in the reserves and is making business cards. She is not stating a title at all but it wearing her uniform in the picture on her business card. Her husband informed her that she isn't allowed to do this but we were wondering, for this client and for future clients, what the rule was for wearing uniforms in photographs on business item such as business cards, flyers, yard signs, etc. Any help would be appreciated. A copy of the business card is attached with the contact information removed. They have a newspaper ad with pictures of both of them in uniform marketing their new civilian business.
Guidance please. Dear A. In both cases it is exactly what the DoD regulation would seek to prohibit. Both of these situations are examples of people trying to parlay the goodwill of the public toward veterans — to financial success in their commercial enterprises. I work at a regional office for an agency of the U. Department of Labor. They are in a new job — not the military. Robert J. Some years ago I recall seeing in an US Army protocol document that retired Army officers who subsequently become Department of the Army civilians were not to use or refer to their retired rank in connection with their civilian service position.
Can you verify that?
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This is generally interpreted to forbid use anytime there could be a possibility someone might believe a retired officer has an endorsement by the DoD in a position As general statement, one should use a form of address supported by the position one holds, not by one's former position. An example of when it should not be used would be a retired USAF officer who in retirement takes a job for Boeing He should not use his rank as a Boeing employee since he is acting as a civilian.
That aside, in reading the FAQs and another statement on Military.
Com, there seems to be a prohibition against using the rank and retired designation in my signature block. I think my signature block is clear that I am retired and I have listed my position. Can you comment? The example you cite on your site is a civilian employee of a defense contractor which is not quite the same as a civilian civil service employee. I enjoyed reading your information! Dear Mr. The colleague was not asking her to pretend to be on active duty -- he just felt it would make her pitch for support more persuasive I guess.https://icexarbed.gq
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When I speak to military protocol officers, they say it's never a conflict for a retired officer to use his or her rank socially. But they maintain that in any post-retirement position However it's a topic that comes up a lot around DC. Socially it's just fine to use your rank I am a veteran several times over.
Here is my question. I recently went to work with an organization that our primary client base are the VA Hospitals. I have gone back to reserve status for the time being. I read your blog, but see two different views. Retired military members and members of Reserve Components, not on active duty, may use military titles in connection with commercial enterprises, provided they clearly indicate their retired or inactive Reserve status. However, any use of military titles is prohibited if it in any way casts discredit on DoD or gives the appearance of sponsorship, sanction, endorsement, or approval by DoD.
That would seem to imply I can use my rank at a commercial enterprise if I am clear and do not discredit the DoD. Michael Anderson". He said everyone knew him and it was clear he wasn't an MD or had a doctorate in a health field. I see him presenting his name in a way where he might rightly or wrongly receive a undue credibility. Anderson" was O.
K at the university teaching English, but was not O. I see the clause you noted to be interpreted to prohibit the use of one's rank if there is a possibility one might receive any courtesy and privilege rightfully granted to the holder of a rank. To me it's the selling to a branch of the government that is the red flag. RE: However, any use of military titles is prohibited if it in any way casts discredit on DoD or gives the appearance of sponsorship, sanction, endorsement, or approval by DoD.
Using one's rank when selling to government would seem to be covered in the "sponsorship" or "endorsement" notations. What is the permissible title to use on a signature block or in the classroom setting?
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Then you should use a signature block supported by the office you hold. You can of course mention your rank and Naval Reserve status in text, such as in your biography. Can a former U. Army Captain who was medically retired after three years of service use his rank However, it they were medically separated then She was Sgt. Jane Doe , however her married name is Smith. Would she be address in a formal military setting as Sgt.
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By Department of Defense guidelines those resigning their commission or being honorably discharged Since you say she was honorably discharged, she is now addressed as a civilian using her current name without rank: Ms. Jane Smith. I used "Ms. But if for some reason she prefers "Mrs. Jane Smith" I would follow her preference. I cover all this in my book.
He claims once a Marine always a Marine and uses that as justification to use his former rank and service affiliation on correspondence He receives no income related to his military service since he "got out. I am currently attending school with plans of returning to the Army once I complete my degree. However, in the mean time there are occasions where I would like to use my military rank for letters of recommendations, etc.
What would be the correct format for using my former rank with my name? Use of rank is reserved for career year retirees -- with the intention that their use of the rank is for personal social use -- and is not for use subsequent civilian work-related situations. In a bio or in a resume the service to our nation would be included as part of one's experience -- it's just using the rank as part of one's name the DoD specifically prohibits.
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So the correct form of address in both cases is Mr. On the bottom right, there is room for my signature, which I intend to just print out in a nice looking script font. I think including my USMC rank will increase my name recognition in our community. I served my 4 years and received an honorable discharge.
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Or do I need to say Former? If you want to mention you are a USMC veteran, the right place to do it would be in the text of the letter.
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Use of a rank in the form you suggest is reserved to fully retired personnel and is limited to social use. Our county courthouse proudly displays personal bricks on a Walk of Honor with the names, years of service, branch of service of veterans. This person was dishonorably discharged as a deserter. Since he was in fact a member of the Armed Forces and did produce the required DD to gain a place on our Walk of Honor is he doing anything illegal?
It is a shame the county employee that verified the information did not check his papers closer. My husband did serve this country as a Marine and it is offensive to me to see the bricks even on the same sidewalk.. Dear S. However I doubt it is anything the Department of Defense will pursue.